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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 21:49:51 GMT -5
There's also the current expedition Liberty University is fielding to try and find it.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 20:59:11 GMT -5
I find it hilarious how everyone is a-okay with Israel holding thousands of Palestinians prisoner, but when Hamas captures a single soldier Sky starts choking on his own spittle with rage. Meanwhile, I find it pathetic that you are so desperate to dodge the issue that you're casting aspersions upon me instead of confronting the reasons why the Palestinians are facing such an uphill battle in regards to PR. You mean their lack of funds or a well-established government, as well as the fact that hardly anyone in the U.S. media is willing to even mention the possibility that Israel has been anything less than completely fair to the Palestinian people? Oh, you're pretending that it's because they're holding a single soldier hostage while Israel continues to do the exact same thing with thousands of Palestinians, both militants and civilians. But since I already made that point and instead of addressing it you claimed that I was dodging the issue (what a shiny shiny mirror), I'll refrain from wasting my breath any further.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 20:32:56 GMT -5
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 20:00:50 GMT -5
I find it hilarious how everyone is a-okay with Israel holding thousands of Palestinians prisoner, but when Hamas captures a single soldier Sky starts choking on his own spittle with rage.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 19:59:05 GMT -5
Sky, are you being intentionally thickheaded?
You've been repeatedly asked what your opinion would be if a business refused to accept custom from mormons and the mormons couldn't mount an effective boycott. Your only response has been to insist that such a scenario is completely impossible. I would say that I'm done taking you seriously, but that happened a long time ago.
Also, what exactly is your point? Why are boycotts somehow preferable to a lawsuit, if the result in both cases is the same?
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 18:13:12 GMT -5
Why not? We already have laws in place against discrimination in hiring, why should service be any different? Well for one a business owner can choose not to have employees. They don't have that choice when it comes to having some customers. I'm pretty sure no one is going to decide to work solo purely for the purpose of not having to hire demographics they don't like. I would be happy to take their money. Every dollar of theirs that goes into my pocket is a dollar that isn't funding hatred.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 16:24:21 GMT -5
ITT: Skyfire claims that filing a discrimination lawsuit is childish and claims that taking offense at bigotry is the same as being anti-religious. Never underestimate the value of a good sob story in the hands of the media. A lawsuit? The people who you're suing can make themselves out as martyrs. A well-orchestrated PR campaign? You can go murder their puppy for spite and the populace will still forgive you because they've been led to believe that the other party deserved it. What... on Earth does that have to do with my point? Are we having the same conversation? Chop off the last sentence and I'll agree with you. There are many good reasons to refuse service to someone. "They're gay/black/muslim/otherminority" is not one of them. Rights with good reasons does not freedom make. I agree that refusing service to someone based on those reason is not good, but it should not be illegal. Why not? We already have laws in place against discrimination in hiring, why should service be any different? @david D. G.: restaurants serve the public. A professional photographer serves the clients he chooses to serve. I honestly do not understand either the distinction or why it matters in any way. The fact that it would be easy for businesses that operate on an appointment basis to get around shouldn't be an obstacle to its implementation.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 16:09:42 GMT -5
Is that real? Because it's certainly an improvement over the last list. Of course, the first two are pure stupid, without them, we wouldn't have things like insulin for diabetics (result of genetic engineering) or any pharmaceutical (all drugs must be tested on humans at one point). I said an improvement, not that it was perfect. If they could just find replacements for 1, 2 and 7 it'd be good.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 13:51:45 GMT -5
Is that real? Because it's certainly an improvement over the last list.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 29, 2009 13:36:39 GMT -5
Chop off the last sentence and I'll agree with you. There are many good reasons to refuse service to someone. "They're gay/black/muslim/otherminority" is not one of them. ITT: Skyfire claims that filing a discrimination lawsuit is childish and claims that taking offense at bigotry is the same as being anti-religious.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 28, 2009 18:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by Tiger on Dec 28, 2009 18:36:56 GMT -5
Even though conception is occurring, if people are using preimplantation genetic diagnosis, the only thing that’s happening is that some cells in a petri dish somewhere are being destroyed. I'm aware, just being pedantic.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 28, 2009 1:47:25 GMT -5
To which burden of proof would still be the proper response.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 23:24:55 GMT -5
Wait! Come back! We surrender!
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 23:23:27 GMT -5
Just bring up burden of proof and do your best to try and move on.
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