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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 23:16:16 GMT -5
Yaezakura: technically if they're using IVF, then conception is occurring.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 23:08:43 GMT -5
I usually don't use the word "evil" because it brings to mind fantasy villains (and fundies ranting about things) more than real-life baddies. But I believe that there are good things and bad things, yes.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 23:05:32 GMT -5
Tiger: The problem is that those are all straw men. Does the claim that there's no God rest on faith? Lack of evidence is about as far as you can get for evidence of something not existing. I acknowledge that. But there are people who've never really thought things out and arrived at the conclusion that there are no gods by blind faith. They're the people who you wish would stop helping when you're participating in a debate together. A link to the wikipedia pages on Appeal to Emotion and Appeal to Consequences.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 4:01:01 GMT -5
80 grams, actually.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 2:15:26 GMT -5
If life isn't a need, then really, do any needs exist? And if not, how would the concept of "need" even be defined? ...I think I just broke my brain. That's what I was getting at. We don't technically need anything. Something I "need" is actually something I "really really want". Like food. Or air. There's also the conditional form of the word: for example, needing good grades in order to get into college. Or to continue with the "basic needs" theme, needing food and water in order to survive.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 27, 2009 2:12:40 GMT -5
'cuz you haven't figured out bittorrent?
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 22:38:49 GMT -5
I think we're forgetting that the non-religious are only 16% of the population. We'd need to take the liberal Christians with us for things to get quite that bad.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 18:27:08 GMT -5
My site did NOT publish a single address, Glad to hear it. Neither did we. So when one person from FSTDT makes a joke about doing it, you care enough to throw a hissy fit, but when several people from RR endorse it in complete seriousness, it doesn't matter? So... exactly what are you up in arms about? You mentioned this back when you guys were planning the meetup too. It's no less hilarious now. Why are you here, again? You're welcome. And when RR members talk about it in a non-joking manner, it doesn't matter whatsoever? Aw.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 18:17:16 GMT -5
To be fair, some of the strawmen on that list are things that some atheists actually believe. Name a few. As I recall, they were pretty much all ridiculous nonsense, such as, "You go to message boards and proclaim that you're angry at God for not existing." A large number are ridiculous, but people still believe them. For instance, there are some people out there who are just as idiotic about atheism as RR is about Christianity: Additionally, there are a few on there that are fairly accurate to what most atheists believe, but phrased in a way that makes them sound inane. This is probably the best example in that it acts like natural disasters and diseases are somehow as trivial as drippy ice cream:
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 16:31:06 GMT -5
"Primitive people are the wealthiest people on earth because they fulfill every single need that they have." Weird take on the concepts of wealth and need. As I see it, everyone who is alive fulfils every need they have, otherwise they die. That's why we call them "needs". Who says that life is a "need"? When you get down to it, everything we work for is a "want". Needs are just very important wants.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 16:29:17 GMT -5
It would be different if that list was in any way, shape, or form even remotely funny, but it's not. Hell, I'm all for holding up anything and everything for satire and mockery, but that list is neither of those things. It's basicly just a long (way TOO long) attempt to be glib and superior to all the stupid "atheists." It doesn't really address any real positions or issues of atheists, but is rather just a long list of straw men and ad homs. To be fair, some of the strawmen on that list are things that some atheists actually believe.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 3:21:01 GMT -5
I was bored and started reading through Buzzardhut's list. I got to the history section before I realized how long it was and exactly how much effort he'd put into that steaming pile of fail. Woooow. About the same amount of effort it takes to press ctrl-c, then ctrl-v. Buzzardhut is not the original author of the list. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse. Out of curiosity, who is?
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Post by Tiger on Dec 26, 2009 3:17:21 GMT -5
Chaos? All you really need to do is raise hell every now and then and make the USA so paranoid and tired they lose their grip on reality. Which isn't too hard, considering the majority of us have a very tenuous grip on reality already.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 25, 2009 22:22:08 GMT -5
En guarde, sir.
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Post by Tiger on Dec 25, 2009 20:51:56 GMT -5
Could. Highly doubtful, though. That's if what the guy had was a 'cherry bomb' style firecracker. It started a fire, we know that much. Well, no one died, so apparently Jodie's assessment of the guy is fairly accurate.
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