Judge beats daughter for using the internet

[nightangel1282]

In regards to copyright infringement laws... when I was a kid, I remember exchanging cassette tapes with other kids at school to make copies, and I didn't hear anyone screaming about it back then... It's only when CD's/DVD's came out that it became such an enormous issue. Plus, I recorded shows off of TV all the time and would sometimes watch the shows with friends and family later. We even had a COP in the house once when I was doing it, and he didn't say anything...

[Smurfette Principle]

Nov 9, 2011 10:24:07 GMT -5 rageaholic said:

And if you want even more insane troll logic, check out this "Hypothetical situation".

"lol ok, well then tell me how you would deal with this hypothetical.

Let's say that prior to turning the camera on, this girl had kidnapped her younger sister and stored her in a cage under the bed. She screams to her father "I'm tired of you running my life and I'm going to hurt (younger sister) if you fuck with me anymore, you old pathetic excuse for a man!" She then runs into her room, locks the door, and turns on the webcam, being careful to hide any indicators of its presence.

The father breaks down the door, screaming and yelling, and whips the daughter as we've seen, ashamed that he's raised such a monster and rambling about downloading music or whatever. After he's done, he leaves the room to get the key to unlock the younger sister's cage, and the daughter flips off the webcam.

Would this change your opinion of the situation at all? Apparently not, since you "don't give a shit about any immoral reasons behind the daughters choice to record the incident.""

*insert nostalgia critic quote about what a dumbass he is*

The fuck? How does that even make sense?

[Dragon Zachski]

Nov 9, 2011 8:57:33 GMT -5 the sandman said:

Nov 9, 2011 4:16:59 GMT -5 Dragon Zachski said:

Sorry, Sandman, but this is where your argument crashed and burned.

Please, re-read my post to see why. And please, in the future, read my posts more thoroughly before jumping on them.

Not sure I follow you there. Yes, I saw that you questioned the morality of piracy, but I think you misunderstood me there. I was using a generic "you" in my post. I am sorry that it came across as me directly addressing you, personally. I think I formatted my comment poorly, because now that I re-read it, it sure as hell does seem like I was doing that.

But I'm not sure why you say I crashed and burned there. You only quote a portion of what I said taken out of context. I was expressing the opinion that one can justify to oneself all one wants that piracy is not theft, but as I see it and as the law sees it, it most definitely is.

I'm not really trying to start shit with you here, and I would be lying if I said I had never downloaded something of questionable legality or copied a friend's CD. I was just expressing my opinion.

Ah Sorry. The whole "argument crashed and burn" thing was precisely because I thought all of it was directed at me.

I was speaking more along the lines of definitions. Piracy cannot be defined as theft because it is missing something important - the denial of the object to the original owner. That is as much a part of theft as taking something that doesn't belong to you. So, therefore, piracy cannot and should not be defined as theft.

It should instead be defined as its own crime. Internet piracy. Shaped like itself.

Now, what someone does when they download your hard work is that they've violated your intellectual property. And if/when they distribute it, they are preventing you from making money (I'm not sure if there's a proper term for that, as it's essentially the opposite side of the spectrum, in that they are denying you something without actually taking it for themselves, which still isn't theft)

And believe me, I'm not one to talk about morality either :V though I have cut down a lot on ZSNES and such now that the Virtual Console is out, and I eventually plan to cut it out entirely, except for those Japanese-only games that require a fan patch for translation.

[terri]

The daughter and mother were interviewed on Dr. Phil today.

[ironbite]

and?

[nightangel1282]

Nov 9, 2011 20:28:07 GMT -5 terri said:

The daughter and mother were interviewed on Dr. Phil today.

Details? Links to video clips? Any further info?

[terri]

Okay, so my last post was light on the details. Anyway, the father refused to appear on the show and only spoke to Dr. Phil privately or through an attorney. Hillary, the daughter, said she put the video on the web instead of first going to the police because her father was a judge with plenty of power in their town. The judge in his official (third-person) statement said "very few people find palatable her claim it was to 'help' her father. Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it. The post was then uploaded." Basically the judge accused his daughter of blackmail.

[the sandman]

If those allegations are true, it does seem to cast the daughter in a somewhat unflattering light. Perhaps this is one of those cases where it is not as cut-and-dried as it at first seemed? Regardless of the motivation behind the daughter placing the video online, the treatment she received at the hands of her parents was absolutely abuse, probably even assault. But.....if she did release the video as some kind of revenge I find my sympathy somewhat less. That said, I would need to see some proof of the father's allegations. In my opinion, a father who would assault his teenage daughter wouldn't balk at lying.

[Runa]

Ya know what? If this is the only way she can get her dad back, good for her. A Mercedes and financial support is the least that jerkoff owes her.

[VirtualStranger]

www.cnn.com/2011/11/23/justice/texas-beating-video/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

tl:dr - He's been suspended by the Texas Supreme Court.

[N. De Plume]

Nov 23, 2011 11:14:54 GMT -5 VirtualStranger said:

www.cnn.com/2011/11/23/justice/texas-beating-video/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

tl:dr - He's been suspended by the Texas Supreme Court.

Wow. Actual consequences.

[murdin]

He will be bitterly missed. By his fellow child abusers, that is.

[Damen]

And her response to his she's-just-pissed-over-losing-her-car accusation:

latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/texas-high-court-suspends-judge-in-beating-video.html

But Hillary Adams told Matt Lauer on the "Today" show that she had released the video because "the disputes and the harassment were escalating, and finally it was just the straw that broke the camel's back." She added: "I told him I had the video and he brushed it off. ... He didn't seem to think anything of it, and basically dared me to post it."

She told Lauer that she had set up the video camera on her dresser to capture the discipline that routinely occurred in the household.

"It did happen regularly," she said. "I waited seven years [to release it] because back then I was still a minor and living under his roof, and releasing it then, I don't know what would have happened to me, my mother, my little sister. So waiting until today, seven years later, has allowed me pull away and distance myself from the consequences."

[Iosa the Invincible]

Nov 23, 2011 18:16:06 GMT -5 Damen said:

And her response to his she's-just-pissed-over-losing-her-car accusation:

latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/texas-high-court-suspends-judge-in-beating-video.html

But Hillary Adams told Matt Lauer on the "Today" show that she had released the video because "the disputes and the harassment were escalating, and finally it was just the straw that broke the camel's back." She added: "I told him I had the video and he brushed it off. ... He didn't seem to think anything of it, and basically dared me to post it."

She told Lauer that she had set up the video camera on her dresser to capture the discipline that routinely occurred in the household.

"It did happen regularly," she said. "I waited seven years [to release it] because back then I was still a minor and living under his roof, and releasing it then, I don't know what would have happened to me, my mother, my little sister. So waiting until today, seven years later, has allowed me pull away and distance myself from the consequences."

I don't understand how her motives for posting the video impact the severity of what he did, as if posting this for blackmail somehow absolves him of all wrongdoing.

[VirtualStranger]

Nov 23, 2011 11:25:15 GMT -5 N. De Plume said:

Nov 23, 2011 11:14:54 GMT -5 VirtualStranger said:

www.cnn.com/2011/11/23/justice/texas-beating-video/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

tl:dr - He's been suspended by the Texas Supreme Court.

Wow. Actual consequences.

As an update to my earlier post, it appears that he is has been suspended with pay. So it's more like a slap on the wrist.