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Post by priestling on Nov 5, 2011 23:05:01 GMT -5
I have a friend that is (and she may as well be related to me, we've known each other for the better part of a decade), and in her case, she identifies as female.
Myself, despite being born male, I'm female mentally. I identify as hermaphroditic personally. I'll answer to 'He', 'Hir', or 'She'. Best thing to do? ask the person that's intersex what they prefer as a pronoun. If you slip and use the wrong one, apologize.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 5, 2011 23:10:31 GMT -5
Again, the police CAN'T arrest someone for assault, unless there's a complaining witness. So it needs to be the victim who complains to the police, not the school. [citation needed] FFS
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 5, 2011 23:14:43 GMT -5
I don't know what the fuck that's supposed to be, but that is not a citation. As I have looked & not found this law, I have good reason to believe you're talking out of your ass.
Do I have to threaten you with direct questions just to keep you using coherent sentences?
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Post by davedan on Nov 6, 2011 3:27:20 GMT -5
FFS The police can bring the charges themselves without a complainant or even with a victim who insists that there was nothing wrong. Happens most commonly in Domestic Violence cases. I wonder why? To be fair to LHM it is not common for most other types of assault.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 6, 2011 4:03:49 GMT -5
I thought I was being fair when I said "citation needed" instead of just jumping straight to the "I know for a fact that you're talking out of your ass" part.
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Post by Shane for Wax on Nov 6, 2011 4:21:58 GMT -5
Dragon Zachski- how is it not English? It is a word being put into the English vocabulary. It is not another language. It isn't even English. A quick search of Merriam-Webster and Oxford Dictionaries do not return an entry for "zie," "zir" or "hir" And we all know MW and Oxford are the end-all be-all for words that are slowly gaining ground and are slowly becoming widely used. Being put into the English vocabulary =/= already there. I would assume we'd all know a word taken from another language then put into English from a word invented for the English language. As for the assault thing, the whole thing is moot since the victim's family got the police involved. However, comma, the schools in the US are from what I am aware made to call the police regardless of a victim crying foul.
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 6, 2011 4:34:23 GMT -5
I don't know what the fuck that's supposed to be, but that is not a citation. As I have looked & not found this law, I have good reason to believe you're talking out of your ass. Do I have to threaten you with direct questions just to keep you using coherent sentences? Fine. Yes, the police can arrest people for assault without a complaining witness. Thats why they arrest known spousal abusers and rapists without a complaining witness all the time.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 6, 2011 4:45:10 GMT -5
Yes. I know.
So, as we were saying, basically nothing has been done in several months, which I frankly find strange. How long could it possibly take to obtain an arrest warrant?
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Post by Shane for Wax on Nov 6, 2011 4:52:16 GMT -5
It shouldn't take this long hence the title about nothing being done in this case legally (such as an arrest warrant). >_>
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on Nov 6, 2011 5:38:13 GMT -5
Um... he was suspended for 3 days, how is that "nothing"? What happened when police were called? I've worked in a school environment where kids were criminally assaulting another student and the school suspended them. It did nothing to stop the assaults, screw suspending them. It's a holiday and they won't give a shit! Arraign them before a fucking judge and let them know you mean business!
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Post by lighthorseman on Nov 6, 2011 5:43:41 GMT -5
Um... he was suspended for 3 days, how is that "nothing"? What happened when police were called? I've worked in a school environment where kids were criminally assaulting another student and the school suspended them. It did nothing to stop the assaults, screw suspending them. It's a holiday and they won't give a shit! Arraign them before a fucking judge and let them know you mean business! I agree. But again, thats a police matter, not a school one, right?
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Post by Shane for Wax on Nov 6, 2011 6:58:36 GMT -5
Since when can the police suspend or expel students, LHM?
The whole damn point of the matter is that 3 days is nothing especially when it comes to waiting for the police to get involved in the whole thing. While waiting the bully is now back in school and the victim is hopefully pulled out of school by his mother for protection purposes.
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Post by Bluefinger on Nov 6, 2011 10:50:54 GMT -5
I've worked in a school environment where kids were criminally assaulting another student and the school suspended them. It did nothing to stop the assaults, screw suspending them. It's a holiday and they won't give a shit! Arraign them before a fucking judge and let them know you mean business! I agree. But again, thats a police matter, not a school one, right? If things occur on school grounds, the school has to act as it is within their responsibility. They are effectively taking care of kids/teenagers during school hours. If it is serious, they bring the police into the matter. The fact that police get involved at some point does not absolve the responsibility from the school. They still have to ensure the safety and well-being of their students. Therefore, in the event of a serious assault on a student, they can and should bring charges against the offender, or at least get the police involved in order to resolve the matter in an appropriate fashion. Try to tap-dance around this, and I will just laugh at you.
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Nov 6, 2011 18:23:36 GMT -5
I'm going to be frank. I graduated just a year ago. I know the school policies. I'm not sure why you're trying to sell me on these ridiculous lies that the school isn't responsible for things that take place on their grounds. One of the first things any school handbook will tell you is "We are responsible for what the students do on our grounds, & can take appropriate action, even if school is not in session."
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Post by sidburn on Nov 6, 2011 21:34:04 GMT -5
Oh my God, that poor kid got a 3 day suspension? Another example of anti-Christian bigotry and persecution! (extreme bitter sarcasm)
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