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Post by Shane for Wax on May 24, 2011 15:57:44 GMT -5
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Post by Rat Of Steel on May 24, 2011 16:01:56 GMT -5
Interesting. Most interesting. *nods*
I'm ambivalent about it currently. Mostly, I'd like to see how this plays out.
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Post by Kit Walker on May 24, 2011 16:02:58 GMT -5
I don't disagree with it, per se, but it seems like making your baby into a political statement isn't the most...nurturing thing to do. Even if, by some miracle, they keep the gender under wraps for years the child is still going to learn the biological difference between boys and girls the second they go to school. From there, the child will then either figure out their own sex very swiftly or the parents will have to keep it from them.
Besides, no one "chooses" their gender identity. They can have aspects of a gender identity foisted on them based on their sex, but there is no element of choice in the matter. And a five year old (the latest I estimate they could keep this little play going without homeschooling) doesn't have the cognitive abilities to understand such concepts. They've just barely mastered the toilet at that age.
I just don't see how this whole thing ends in a positive way. A pointless way? Seems really likely. A negative way? I hope not. A positive way? Not seeing it.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on May 24, 2011 16:11:39 GMT -5
Looks like they're going unschooled. An interesting concept, I think. Also, I don't think they're letting the kids "choose" their gender identity - they're just not forcing one on them. Their kid Jazz wants to have long hair, but tells people he is a boy. I'm cool with it. It's odd, but I'm cool with it.
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Post by tolpuddlemartyr on May 24, 2011 16:12:45 GMT -5
I think if you are doing it as a tribute to freedom of choice, to quote the parents, then you should bring the child up in an environment where they are aware of the freedom to choose and let them decide.
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Post by Vene on May 24, 2011 16:14:28 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about the unschooling bullshit.
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Post by Caitshidhe on May 24, 2011 16:19:42 GMT -5
I agree it's pretty pointless. I can see this kid growing up very, very confused. There's nothing wrong with going, "Yes, my child is a girl. And these are her favourite toys--the colouring book and the Tonka truck."
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Post by Smurfette Principle on May 24, 2011 16:21:54 GMT -5
I'm more concerned about the unschooling bullshit. This. Though it's probably the only way to keep people from knowing Storm's gender. Homeschooling really can go either way in terms of whether or not it's good for the child, so as long as they're in a state with adequate standards for homeschooling (making the kids take a standardized test every year, or something), they should be OK.
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Post by Shane for Wax on May 24, 2011 16:42:24 GMT -5
I agree it's pretty pointless. I can see this kid growing up very, very confused. There's nothing wrong with going, "Yes, my child is a girl. And these are her favourite toys--the colouring book and the Tonka truck." To be fair, I'm very, very confused and I know what sex I was born as. Rotten brain chemistry.
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Post by Caitshidhe on May 24, 2011 16:55:24 GMT -5
True. Fair enough, I suppose,but this sounds like it'll add a lot of confusion where otherwise there might ont have been any.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on May 24, 2011 17:03:38 GMT -5
I don't know. I mean, I certainly got confused at times as a child, and I was raised in jumpers, hair ribbons, and patent leather shoes.
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Post by Vene on May 24, 2011 17:06:41 GMT -5
In my opinion, confusion is a symptom of learning. At least, that's what I told myself when taking molecular biology.
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Post by clockworkgirl21 on May 24, 2011 17:25:23 GMT -5
Sounds stupid to me.
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Post by MaybeNever on May 24, 2011 17:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by Her3tiK on May 24, 2011 17:36:20 GMT -5
Does this mean calling the child "it" is accurate? What else do you use if not "he or "she"?
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