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Post by Damen on Mar 8, 2009 5:32:41 GMT -5
This pisses me off so much the only thing I can come up with right now is to say "Fuck the Catholic church."
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Post by Doctor Fishcake on Mar 8, 2009 5:35:25 GMT -5
Secular enlightenment coming to Brazil in 3...2...1...
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 8, 2009 11:39:52 GMT -5
It is not so much a sick fetish for having women suffer, it's a power thing. They want to hold all women's lives in the "traditional" role of barefoot and pregnent in the kitchen. That's where the Vatican wants you ladies. Which to me is stupid and sick. Also dangerous. What they're really doing is applying a 2000 year old policy designed to shore up the amount of worshippers you had in the pews, and therefore more money in the collection plate, to the modern world. It simply doesn't work that way anymore. The fact that they compleatly disregard the fact that carrying these kids to term would've endangered three lives doesn't even begin to get me angry. Its the fact that in their minds, if God didn't want her to have these babies to begin with, he wouldn't have made her dress so provocativly to entice her step-father into unwanton lust. Lust, btw, IS A SIN! Ironbite-I say let 'em excommunicate the doctors, join another church if you need Jesus so badly. It gets worse, since it wasn't even her misdeed she's being punished for, but some sick pedophile motherfucker who probably already hurt her. No, almost certainly did. This is some seriously messed up shit.
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Post by Anti-Goth on Mar 8, 2009 14:21:38 GMT -5
It seems to me they should regard it as a badge of honor. Any organization that would kick members out for saving a girl's life is an organization one can be proud to get kicked out of. Maybe if they're really lucky they'll get the full bell, book and candle routine. That would be so cool. Huh, I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm pissed off as fuck over this, since I STILL have to go to that fucking church every week. This just made up my mind--once I'm at college, I am not setting foot inside another Catholic Church, EVER. Fuck them and fuck their "WAH DA POOR WIDDLE FETUSIS!!!!!!111" bullshit. SHOW SOME FUCKING COMPASSION YOU ASSWIPES OH WAIT, YOU'RE SAVING IT FOR THE RAPIST AREN'T YOU? I BET THERE'S A FUCKING PRIEST IN THE PRISON TRYING TO 'SAVE' HIM RIGHT? WELL GUESS THE FUCK WHAT. THAT JUST SHOWS THE FUCKING WORLD WHO YOU CARE ABOUT AND IT AIN'T WOMEN. FUCK YOU AND YOUR STUPID FUCKING CHURCH.
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Post by Moon Wolfhowl on Mar 8, 2009 22:16:24 GMT -5
OK....Seriously, Vatican? I know you don't get out much, but really. Go look at a 9 year old's pelvis. (Not for too long though, I know you guys have trouble with that sort of thing.) Then look at a newborn baby. Then, look at two of them. Get that nine year old back in the room to compare if you need to.
Are you starting to get a hint, or do you need to be hit in the face with a bat until the stupid gets dislodged?
We already know you support child rapists, so the fact that the father didn't have anything happen to him except having to go to Confession wasn't surprising, really.
Sorry to any Catholics, but....you have to know that the organization that tells you what to do is fucked up, right? D:
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Post by Admiral Lithp on Mar 8, 2009 22:46:27 GMT -5
And THEY call US pro-deathers who want criminals to get off scott free.
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Post by stormwarden on Mar 8, 2009 22:47:20 GMT -5
It is beyond fucked up, the things these priests ask. I wonder if they realize that a bunch of old men in robes don't have the right to decide who goes up and who goes down.
If God did exist, I am quite certain he wouldn't rely on a bunch of biblethumpers to do his job for him. Now, Vatican, stay the FUCK outta my bedroom, and the rest of my life, for that matter!
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Post by ironbite on Mar 8, 2009 23:10:06 GMT -5
It is beyond fucked up, the things these priests ask. I wonder if they realize that a bunch of old men in robes don't have the right to decide who goes up and who goes down. If God did exist, I am quite certain he wouldn't rely on a bunch of biblethumpers to do his job for him. Now, Vatican, stay the FUCK outta my bedroom, and the rest of my life, for that matter! If God did exist, he'd be sitting on the thrown in the Vatican and telling everyone exactly what he ment by "love everyone unconditionally". And anyone who thought that ment "love everyone but if they do have some thing that you disagree with therefore they are subhuman monsters who must be hunted to the ends of the earth and beyond" gets lightning bolts up their asses. Ironbite-you heard me.
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Post by Sayna on Mar 9, 2009 0:10:52 GMT -5
Further proof that the "pro-life" movement REALLY means "SAVE TEH FETUSES!!" >.< It's not even that. A lot of them do support rape and incest exceptions. A fetus is only a pwecious baby when the woman had the audacity to have dirty, icky, sex? How convenient! A great article on the subject: www.abortion.org.au/prolifeagenda.htm
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Post by Caitshidhe on Mar 9, 2009 0:20:17 GMT -5
Not all of them favour a rape/incest amendment to their anti-choice agenda. They believe that the "innocent baby" shouldn't have to SUFFER for the sins of its father, and that a child is somehow a freaking GIFT from their sadistic god, something "good" (I have no idea HOW) to come out of a bad situation. I'm not kidding. Some of the more sickening fundies actually think it's a woman's fault when she's raped because she was somehow 'asking for it'--because she was dressed 'provocatively' (and no two fundies can agree what constitutes 'provocative'), or because she had the gall to be outside without a MAYY-UN, or because she didn't stay in the kitchen like a good little slave-woman.
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Post by ironbite on Mar 9, 2009 1:39:27 GMT -5
Not all of them favour a rape/incest amendment to their anti-choice agenda. They believe that the "innocent baby" shouldn't have to SUFFER for the sins of its father, and that a child is somehow a freaking GIFT from their sadistic god, something "good" (I have no idea HOW) to come out of a bad situation. I'm not kidding. Some of the more sickening fundies actually think it's a woman's fault when she's raped because she was somehow 'asking for it'--because she was dressed 'provocatively' (and no two fundies can agree what constitutes 'provocative'), or because she had the gall to be outside without a MAYY-UN, or because she didn't stay in the kitchen like a good little slave-woman. ....so that last line makes me imagine Cait in a slave-Leia costume. Ironbite-excuse me for a moment.
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Post by schizophonic on Mar 9, 2009 7:45:29 GMT -5
Not all of them favour a rape/incest amendment to their anti-choice agenda. They believe that the "innocent baby" shouldn't have to SUFFER for the sins of its father, and that a child is somehow a freaking GIFT from their sadistic god, something "good" (I have no idea HOW) to come out of a bad situation. I'm not kidding. Some of the more sickening fundies actually think it's a woman's fault when she's raped because she was somehow 'asking for it'--because she was dressed 'provocatively' (and no two fundies can agree what constitutes 'provocative'), or because she had the gall to be outside without a MAYY-UN, or because she didn't stay in the kitchen like a good little slave-woman. Well, don't you know? All women want babies so much that it doesn't matter how they get there. A woman's sole purpose in life is to become a mother. It's in the Bible...Somewhere, I mean a minster once told me, so I'm sure it's there.... The crap about "asking for it" aside, because I don't think I can mock it without ranting, I always wonder why they say the "baby" shouldn't suffer for the sins of the father, but the woman (or in this case, GIRL) should. And I'm sure it somehow comes back to women being evil and deserving the pain and trauma of childbirth (How sick is it that GOD mentions this as punishment in the Bible???), because I can't see any real reason to punish her except hate or total disregard for her.
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Post by Caitshidhe on Mar 9, 2009 10:33:49 GMT -5
I have no idea--you're probably right and it goes back to the whole "women must constantly be punished for the APPLE INCIDENT", but that's pretty sick. What I don't understand is how they think that a child resulting from a rape could possibly have a chance at a decent life. Abortion is probably the kindest thing anybody could do for it. Maybe--MAYBE--if it was given up for adoption after birth and never found out about where it came from, it might have a decent life, but speaking personally, I'd rather be dead than know that I was the product of a rape. To know that I was neither planned for, expected, or wanted and that my father is a criminal and that MY VERY EXISTENCE is the result of his horrific violation of an innocent girl or woman would probably just make me want to walk under a bus.
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Post by canadian mojo on Mar 9, 2009 12:47:05 GMT -5
I'd rather be dead than know that I was the product of a rape. To know that I was neither planned for, expected, or wanted and that my father is a criminal and that MY VERY EXISTENCE is the result of his horrific violation of an innocent girl or woman would probably just make me want to walk under a bus. I'd hunt my father down and kill him. Then I'd have to decide between the bus or hunting down all the people in the world who think rape victims shouln't be allowed to have abortions.
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Post by Caitshidhe on Mar 9, 2009 13:09:04 GMT -5
Finding out that you are the unwanted child of a sexual assault would probably make ANYBODY want to find their father and drive an axe through his face. I wonder if the fundies care about what might happen to the children in question if they ever find out about the circumstances of their conception. Actually, they probably don't--they don't give half a shit about what happens to the fetuses after they're born, just that the DIRTY WHORES women are punished and carry the pregnancy to term. After that, they're FUCKED.
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