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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 13, 2011 6:15:38 GMT -5
Meh...I think my dad's homophobic purely because of his religion (when I asked him what was so wrong with homosexuality, he just meh'd and said "Because God considers it a sin against himself", but my mom just uses it as an excuse. She just plain despises the gay community, despite somehow having good friends who happen to be gay. Then again, I have good reason to suspect that she's secretly one of us queers, so it may just be self-hatred. Welcome to the club. Children of self-loathing repressed homosexuals, bisexuals, and other "freaks of Nature." COSLRHBAOFON for short. I feel a little like Dana from The L Word, only not so athletic. Or bony. I swear, I'd feel absolutely no surprise if it turned out that my mom had been rejected, whether overtly or by her own interpretation, by a chick she was crushing on when she was younger. I mean, when you're desperate enough to get engaged to a complete jackassed redneck hailing from a long line of jackassed rednecks, a man who turned out to father a kid by some bimbo why you were "together", and you're only 16 when you got engaged, and there isn't a bun in YOUR oven, and you haven't even fooled around with the guy? Something smells, and it ain't just the unwashed redneck wanting to share your bed. Yes, I dislike rednecks, they stink of Old Spice and motor oil. Confession Tiem: I didn't realize that gays were more than the stereotypes until my best friend came out as bi...and still acted the same. Not to worry, though, fundieitis can be cured; apply a liberal treatment of FSTDT at least once a day, and voila! You're healed! |
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 13, 2011 8:13:58 GMT -5
I feel a little like Dana from The L Word, only not so athletic. Or bony. I swear, I'd feel absolutely no surprise if it turned out that my mom had been rejected, whether overtly or by her own interpretation, by a chick she was crushing on when she was younger. I mean, when you're desperate enough to get engaged to a complete jackassed redneck hailing from a long line of jackassed rednecks, a man who turned out to father a kid by some bimbo why you were "together", and you're only 16 when you got engaged, and there isn't a bun in YOUR oven, and you haven't even fooled around with the guy? Something smells, and it ain't just the unwashed redneck wanting to share your bed. Yes, I dislike rednecks, they stink of Old Spice and motor oil. Confession Tiem: I didn't realize that gays were more than the stereotypes until my best friend came out as bi...and still acted the same. Not to worry, though, fundieitis can be cured; apply a liberal treatment of FSTDT at least once a day, and voila! You're healed! I doubt my mom ever tried with a woman. However, there's plenty of issues with sexuality in my family. I have one gay aunt everyone;'s all catty about. Implying someon's gay is still a big deal and a huge offense. In that environment, I wouldn't want to be open, either. Hell, I DON'T want to be open, and my environment is slightly less repressed. Ignorance is something you can't overcome..but you passed it on down and that's something much worse....Dropkick Murphys. Yay for family! It actually bugs me when people "come out" and then completely change. I know someone who came out as trans, and turned into an overexcited chihuahua with a pink fetish.... And, of course, it's her gender dysphoria that's the reason her friends Hell, *I* wanted to strangle her when she started lecturing me on feminism. And I'm a little more laid back than some of the people she's alienated. And I'm certainly not anti-transfolk. I mean, I have a deep-seated sense of SELF loathing, but that's different. Amaranth--A hypocrite in my own mind. |
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Post by itachirumon on Jul 13, 2011 8:50:42 GMT -5
Well... when I came out I don't think I changed that much... I added some more stereotypically "gay" mannerisms online, ending my sentences with "hon" to friends and using the sarcastic "sweety" in debates. But usually if I'm acting camp it's just me being silly (or sometimes, perverted), not because I behave that way all the time. Mom's totally accepting but even she still says if I hadn't said anything she wouldn't have known (and this from a lady who claims clarivoyance... but that's a story for another day, all I'll say is there've been some damn weird cooincidences). My ability to "pass" is apparantly that good.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 13, 2011 8:53:35 GMT -5
Well... when I came out I don't think I changed that much... I added some more stereotypically "gay" mannerisms online, ending my sentences with "hon" to friends and using the sarcastic "sweety" in debates. But usually if I'm acting camp it's just me being silly (or sometimes, perverted), not because I behave that way all the time. Mom's totally accepting but even she still says if I hadn't said anything she wouldn't have known (and this from a lady who claims clarivoyance... but that's a story for another day, all I'll say is there've been some damn weird cooincidences). My ability to "pass" is apparantly that good. You've changed, man... >.> |
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Post by Dragon Zachski on Jul 13, 2011 12:46:04 GMT -5
I could probably pass for "Straight Gay", but in my silly moments I like to prance and lithp.
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Post by Smurfette Principle on Jul 13, 2011 13:05:53 GMT -5
I could probably pass for "Straight Gay", but in my silly moments I like to prance and lithp. All this time, I've been pronouncing Admiral Lithp's name as "Lit-hip." I only just got it's pronounced as "lisp" with a lisp. Wow. *facepalm* |
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Post by gyeonghwa on Jul 13, 2011 13:08:24 GMT -5
I'm rather "straight acting"1 though I give enough subtle signals for those attentive enough2 to start questioning.
1 Though straight acting is a problematic term because it conflates masculinity with heterosexuality.
2 Some people are just oblivious to even the most obvious signals.
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Post by Vene on Jul 13, 2011 13:13:48 GMT -5
I'm rather "straight acting" 1 though I give enough subtle signals for those attentive enough 2 to start questioning. 1 Though straight acting is a problematic term because it conflates masculinity with heterosexuality.2 Some people are just oblivious to even the most obvious signals.In my experiences, if a dude starts talking about his weekend sex with another dude, he's probably gay. |
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Post by gyeonghwa on Jul 13, 2011 13:24:49 GMT -5
I'm rather "straight acting" 1 though I give enough subtle signals for those attentive enough 2 to start questioning. 1 Though straight acting is a problematic term because it conflates masculinity with heterosexuality.2 Some people are just oblivious to even the most obvious signals.In my experiences, if a dude starts talking about his weekend sex with another dude, he's probably gay. Some of my friends are dumb enough to think I was joking. |
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Post by Vene on Jul 13, 2011 13:25:59 GMT -5
You do not joke about mansex, mansex is the most serious topic in the world.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 13, 2011 18:03:04 GMT -5
You do not joke about mansex, mansex is the most serious topic in the world. And no straight man would ever joke about it, lest he be labeled as one of the homer sexuals. |
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Post by nightangel1282 on Jul 13, 2011 18:45:10 GMT -5
How the hell did I miss this one?
Anyway, reading through the thread, I can't help but feel thankful for my father... He's a devout Roman Catholic, but he still believes that homosexuals should have many of the same rights as normal married couples. He does not believe that they should be married per se... but he does believe that they should be granted the right to civil unions and be afforded the same rights and priviledges as heterosexual married couples. While I don't like the fact that he won't think of them as being married, at least he's a hell of a lot more tolerant than other RC's I know.
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Post by SCarpelan on Jul 13, 2011 18:50:00 GMT -5
You do not joke about mansex, mansex is the most serious topic in the world. And no straight man would ever joke about it, lest he be labeled as one of the homer sexuals. Shit. I guess many of my friends must think I have a thing for dead Greek philosophers. |
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Post by DeadpanDoubter on Jul 13, 2011 19:25:40 GMT -5
You do not joke about mansex, mansex is the most serious topic in the world. And no straight man would ever joke about it, lest he be labeled as one of the homer sexuals. So all of the TGWTG dudes are gay? I KNEW IT ALL ALONG. I don't know if my mom would've actually tried to get with a chick, but I could easily see her, like, trying to become closer to a woman, the woman doing something that my mom construed as rejection (my mom construes EVERYTHING as rejection, so it wouldn't have to be an outright "ew get away from me dyke"), and thus my mom strangling her homoness into a coma so she would never feel like that EVAR AGAIN. It doesn't help that my mom's ultra "masculine" (loves cars and working on them, helped my dad a lot with building their own computers, likes working outdoors with tilling and planting veggies and shit) and was actually called a dyke-- albeit by her mother-in-law who hated her guts, but hey. As far as far as family acting like homosexuality's an insult, I did tell you guys about my mom's gay cousin, right? Like, he's nowhere near comfortable enough to be out about it, but he's gay and has lived with his partner for 20 years or so now. Everyone knows it, my mom dislikes him for it, and when I commented on what a funny guy her cousin was, she said she'd kill me if I "turned out" like him. Which is funny to me; you'd think she'd WANT me to be sexually attracted to guys. >.> @nightangel: My mom's friend, Mama Patty, is a very devout RC (she often works for the church, attends both the English and Spanish masses, etc.), but she thinks gays should be allowed to be married in every sense of the word, that people should be allowed to use birth control, and all that jazz. She's an amazing lady and the only Catholic I've known that didn't turn me off of Catholicism completely... Unless you count Smurfette Principle, but isn't she a deist? |
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Post by nightangel1282 on Jul 13, 2011 19:32:56 GMT -5
Yeah, when it comes to Gay Rights, my dad's okay. It's when we get into the issues of abortion that he turns slightly fundy. I've learned to not bother trying to debate him.
As for birth control (like pills and condoms and stuff) my father's all for it... especially since he himself had nine kids and is soon going to be pushing having forty grandchildren, and I don't even KNOW how many great grandkids he's got... But he's got at least two great-great grandkids... Just yeah... I think he knows we're not hurting for people to carry on the family name.
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