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Post by Amaranth on Jul 13, 2011 22:09:51 GMT -5
And no straight man would ever joke about it, lest he be labeled as one of the homer sexuals. So all of the TGWTG dudes are gay? I KNEW IT ALL ALONG. I don't know if my mom would've actually tried to get with a chick, but I could easily see her, like, trying to become closer to a woman, the woman doing something that my mom construed as rejection (my mom construes EVERYTHING as rejection, so it wouldn't have to be an outright "ew get away from me dyke"), and thus my mom strangling her homoness into a coma so she would never feel like that EVAR AGAIN. It doesn't help that my mom's ultra "masculine" (loves cars and working on them, helped my dad a lot with building their own computers, likes working outdoors with tilling and planting veggies and shit) and was actually called a dyke-- albeit by her mother-in-law who hated her guts, but hey. As far as far as family acting like homosexuality's an insult, I did tell you guys about my mom's gay cousin, right? Like, he's nowhere near comfortable enough to be out about it, but he's gay and has lived with his partner for 20 years or so now. Everyone knows it, my mom dislikes him for it, and when I commented on what a funny guy her cousin was, she said she'd kill me if I "turned out" like him. Which is funny to me; you'd think she'd WANT me to be sexually attracted to guys. >.> @nightangel: My mom's friend, Mama Patty, is a very devout RC (she often works for the church, attends both the English and Spanish masses, etc.), but she thinks gays should be allowed to be married in every sense of the word, that people should be allowed to use birth control, and all that jazz. She's an amazing lady and the only Catholic I've known that didn't turn me off of Catholicism completely... Unless you count Smurfette Principle, but isn't she a deist? Yeah, you mentioned him before. I don't think my parents would threaten to kill me, but you never know. I'm actually kind of surprised my mom isn't more freaked out about me than she is. It's like she's largely oblivious. And a lot of people, too. I walk around in skirts, and people just talk about it like I'm wearing a different type of pants. Though like I said my family is largely opposed to my novel series because the lead character is female so ZOMG this is a seriosu statement. But otherwise.... People are just...Clueless when it comes to me. People often assume I'm gay or straight with plenty of evidence that would be contrary. You know, like dating someone of the wrong sex to qualify for the label. Or making out with someone....Or just drooling over the wrong sex. And then there's flambouyancy. I'm a bit over-the-top sometimes. Which you'd think would make a lot of people assume, but....It's like I live in reverse stereotype land. Or people think I'm an attention whore. Or...I dunno. The unfortunate truth, though, is that while I'm free to act all "weird" and "gay" or "girly," it's ignorance, not acceptance. And I'm afraid to codify that in words, because....
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Post by Mlle Antéchrist on Jul 13, 2011 22:56:00 GMT -5
Bleh, ignorant family members are frustrating. I've seen it within my own family. They're not hateful or anything like that, but their ignorance on the subject of orientation, gender and sex has produced many-a-facepalm.
All of the older relatives, and a few of the younger ones, on my mom's side act as if my mom's cousin's engagement is some horrible ordeal simply because her fiance is a transman. It's particularly bad when they start up with the whole "I didn't know she was a lesbian!" spiel. Not that there would be anything wrong with it if she was gay/bi/etc., but the fact of the matter is that her fiance isn't a woman, nor a woman living as a man -- he is a man, and one who just so happened to have been born with the wrong set of chromosomes, necessitating the f2m transitioning process. They just don't seem to understand why implying that he's a woman is so disrespectful, regardless of how many times it's been explained to them.
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Post by shykid on Jul 14, 2011 7:18:23 GMT -5
Something tangentially related to that: my friend is a gay transman who has chosen not to have a phalloplasty. His partner's family was apparently finally happy that he had finally found the "right woman," just like they "said" he would. As facepalm-worthy as that is, at least they're "supportive" of him now, I guess, if only in a roundabout sense of the word.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 14, 2011 14:34:19 GMT -5
Something tangentially related to that: my friend is a gay transman who has chosen not to have a phalloplasty. His partner's family was apparently finally happy that he had finally found the "right woman," just like they "said" he would. As facepalm-worthy as that is, at least they're "supportive" of him now, I guess, if only in a roundabout sense of the word. You know, in that situation, I'd be soooo tempted to fuck with them. "Yeah, but 'she' is the top and does him with a big BLACK strap-on." "Yeah, most women have five O'clock shadow and no tits, MIRITE?" (I am assuming, of course, that "choosing not to have phalloplasty" means he's otherwise transitioned) "Yeah, but it's kinda awkward when "she" beats him at pissing contests...."
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Post by canadian mojo on Jul 14, 2011 14:54:12 GMT -5
You do not joke about mansex, mansex is the most serious topic in the world. And no straight man would ever joke about it, lest he be labeled as one of the homer sexuals. Unless you are so manly that making jokes only serves to highlight your heterosexuality.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 14, 2011 15:59:36 GMT -5
And no straight man would ever joke about it, lest he be labeled as one of the homer sexuals. Unless you are so manly that making jokes only serves to highlight your heterosexuality. GIRLFRIEND PLEASE. You're Canadian. You couldn't be any gayer if you sang the Lumberjack Song while dancing around with pink elephants! I kid, fo course. You could be gayer, but only marginally.
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Post by shykid on Jul 14, 2011 19:23:00 GMT -5
rofl Amaranth I am assuming, of course, that "choosing not to have phalloplasty" means he's otherwise transitioned And yes. He's fully transitioned otherwise, though his partner's family doesn't understand/accept that.
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Post by Amaranth on Jul 14, 2011 20:09:37 GMT -5
rofl Amaranth I am assuming, of course, that "choosing not to have phalloplasty" means he's otherwise transitioned And yes. He's fully transitioned otherwise, though his partner's family doesn't understand/accept that. And that's what makes it the most fun in my sick little mind. Because straight guys generally don't think "you know who I'd really like to be with? A dude, but with a vagina." Or, not being a straight guy, this is generally how it's explained to me. In fact, logically, I'd think this would be th least acceptable pairing. But I guess homophobia isn't logical.... Wait...I guess? No, it isn't logical, full stop.
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